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    March 26

    Death Threats Against Bloggers

    I am deeply disturbed, saddened and angry by what I just read at Kathy Sierra's blog about the death threats she has been receiving. I hope the police go after the hateful person(s) who has been sending her these threats and disturbing images. I hate anonymous cowards, but I am sure in this case they can be found. I am specially concerned that she is canceling all her speaking engagements. How to get rid of female conference speakers? Threaten them. This is what terrorists do. They try and silence a voice by instilling fear.

    Kathy's fears and thoughts are shared by everyone who lives a public life. Due to his success, Robert has always been the subject of hatred and envy by some of these jerks as well and they won't leave it to him but to me and Patrick as well. I am feeling quite different about this now that I am pregnant. I want to make sure that I can protect myself and my family.

    I am hoping that Kathy can return to her life and that calm and peace are soon restored in her life. I have tremendous respect for her and want anyone who has caused her such disturbance found and punished to the maximum allowed by law.

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    Robert refers to pigeons as flying rats. I don't know that I agree. If I see a rat, I run away screaming and come back with an exterminator to get rid of it. As for pigeons, I don't have anything against them, but don't care much for their poop. So I can see why they are not the ideal residents for your balcony.
    Apr. 3
    Erwin Blonkwrote:
    I used to have a colleague who had a bunch of pigeons (in Dutch we call that a pigeonmilker, I have no idea why - I mean, how do you milk a pigeon?). At that time pigeons just started to built a nest in a niche of our balcony and I told him. I had no intention to shoo them off. First thing he said (and in no uncertain terms) was that I should chase them off no holds barred (well, except for killing them, although he did not specifically rule that out).
    They left themselves because they couldn´t build a nest there. They kept trying - they might be excellent navigators but apart from that they are dense to the point that even light can´t escape. It was just as well because the 4 cats I had back then were thinking of something easy to catch and eat.
    Apr. 2
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    John C. Welch wrote:
    Heh. Well, the truth is, if she'd have flown off, I'd have chucked her nest over the balcony and been done with it. I really am NOT a pigeon fan, they're nasty birds. Not *chicken* nasty, but nasty. However, I do respect gumption, stubbornness, and courage, and that dirty bird has it all in abundance. So, I let her stay, and deal with more pigeon poop.
    Apr. 2
    How did I know you were gonna like that one? :) Loved your pigeon post btw, although the pigeon was lucky she was dealing with you. You are not exactly a villain you know :)
    Apr. 2
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    John C. Welch wrote:
    I totally don't have a problem with anonymity. Everyone has a right to their opinion as long as they agree with me ;)

    Yay! Maryam's back!
    Apr. 2
    Erwin,

    Geeks are welcome here :) No worries about the long paragraph. I am flattered that you took the tiem to explain yourself here. And thanks for your support.

    John,

    I totally don't have a problem with anonymity. Everyone has a right to their opinion as long as they agree with me ;)

    Seriously though about Mommy bloggers:

    I tend not to write about Patrick as much here, not because I don't love him. I love him so much that I don't want to expose him to any harm, including online. I have thought and rethought about every post that I have mentioned him and I would immediately pull anything down that he doesn't approve. He has his own blog too, which he hasn't updated for a long time :) As for the baby to come, I am probably going to limit those posts to very general ones as well. That said I enjoy reading some of the mommy blogs, because they are good writers and I learn from their experiences.
    Apr. 2
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    John C. Welch wrote:
    If anonymity is the problem, then why aren't the coulters, malkins, frankens, and other pundits more polite?
    Apr. 1
    Erwin Blonkwrote:
    Of course I did. He spent so much time talking around things and trying to illustrate his point that it started to make my head hurt. Speak simply, plainly, and clearly, and misunderstandings are fewer.
     
    I do try but it doesn´t come to me naturally. Behind the keyboard I can control this a bit, in real life it is a different ball game.

    From Wikipedia:

    Asperger Syndrome is characterized by:

    - Narrow interests or preoccupation with a subject to the exclusion of other activities - check

    - Repetitive behaviors or rituals

    - Peculiarities in speech and language - check

    - Extensive logical/technical patterns of thought - check

    - Socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior and interpersonal interaction - kind of check

    - Problems with nonverbal communication - check and double check

    - Clumsy and uncoordinated motor movements - check

    It has it pros and cons. The great thing about the internet is that you sometimes can correct what you said a bit afterwards.  And non of that non-verbal stuff :D The other good thing is that when I type a comment and either I mess up or my PC goes down, I have to re-type everything and will be more to the point. I think I should just turn off my computer each time I finished a comment for the first time just before posting it. Oh, and in a technical IT job like I have, it is an absolute pro.

    Mar. 31
    John,

    I don't have a problem with anonymity as long as you don't use it to ruin other people's lives who have done nothing to you. Please don't compare VA to Galileo or Darwin. They owned their words and suffered for it and our lives are better as a result of their sacrifices. VA doesn't add anything to the world and no one's life is improved by her. And don't compare her to those who are under political pressure and need to remain anonymous for fear of life. That's insulting.  Remember I come from Iran. Bloggers and political opponents of the regime are silenced, tortured, and killed and I would never stand for censorship or a Big Brother state. She is a spineless coward.
    People like VA have had a bad life and think taking it on others is gonna make them feel better. It doesn't. Trying to change the world for better does. But that's too hard for someone like VA. The easy way is to hide behind a mask and take potshots at people. Yeah that's real strength. She is a real hero. Give me a break.
    Mar. 30
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    John C. Welch wrote:
    I think you misunderstood Erwin.

    Of course I did. He spent so much time talking around things and trying to illustrate his point that it started to make my head hurt. Speak simply, plainly, and clearly, and misunderstandings are fewer.

    God knows I use profanity but it is not a regular part of my speech. I keep it for special occasions :) Like when someone insults M&Ms ;) When Tim Bray says a technology is f***ing brilliant or when you say it, it is different from someone who doesn't have any other words in their vocabulary and their sole contribution to the conversation is profanity. Using profanity for profanity's sake is well not my cup of tea and I don't believe it adds any value to my life or anyone else's for that matter.

    It's the assumption that anyone using profanity is some kind of idiot that I object to, and that assumption is rampant. It's almost becoming a meme. If you cuss, you're dumb. Screw that shit, dumb covers far more than just profanity. But read some of this hype exploding from this. Anonymity is the cause, profanity is a sign of a weak, insecure mind, women are helpless flowers. Please. The amount of thinking going on here has dropped exponentially since Kathy's post, and I don't see any signs of recovery.

    You want to know how bad it's getting? I'm agreeing with Winer. I almost never agree with a damned thing that man says, but so far, everything he's posted on this has been dead on. If Kathy had been a man, she'd have been laughed at, and we all know it. If me agreeing with Winer isn't a sign that this is becoming ridiculous, nothing is.

    And for the record, I hadn't heard of VA before you mentioned the site and I think it is pure garbage. I don't take lessons in bravery from anonymous cowards. And someone who thinks it is fair game to make fun of someone's child, because they are famous is worthless. I don't care if her Mom was an alcoholic and her Dad beat her. Doesn't give the excuse to spread hatred in the world. She is not bringing any light to this world. You, on the other hand, add lot of value to my blog life :)

    Actually, so far, her dad was a great guy, and her mom was a nutbar with no discretion whatsoever. As well, don't knock anonymous cowards. They did more to keep people in the American Revolution and get the Constitution passed than people like to think. But right there, you illustrate a central problem with the hysteria: Let's get rid of anonymity, and this will never happen again. For one, that's not the problem, for two, you can't do it, and for three, faking/stealing identities is not only easy, it may have happened to one of the people Kathy fingered.

    She's doing one thing I respect. She's speaking her mind. Do I particularly care that I don't know who she is? Nah. Hell, until January, you didn't know who I was. Oh sure, I'm a bit public, but if anyone reading that site thinks they really know me, they're rather mistaken. I'm just as private as V., I'm just better at talking a lot while never revealing personal things unless I choose to. Honestly, I didn't know anything about Robert until we were talking about something besides his blog.

    Sure, she's trampling on people's sacred notions. But then, that's what truthsayers do. Galileo was run through the inquistion because he dared stand behind science instead of religion. He crapped on a central tenant of christianity at the time. Look at what Darwin and his supporters went through and STILL go through. V's real crime though is in not being a nice person. At least not on the blog. (I'll go with the assumption V's a she, makes it easier.) She's not playing the game. She dared point out that in a real sense, mommybloggers are exploiting their kids. Not at a JonBenet Ramsey level, but they are using their kids lives to get attention. What you think I don't mention mine much on my blog because I'm not proud of him or something? I'm stupid proud of him, but what does detailing his life do besides violate his right to privacy? How many of those kids get a chance to say "Um...mom? Not on the blog today."? Not many I'll wager. Hell of a thing to be not even 18 and have no privacy because your parents detailed your life and your embarassing moments. Sure, it's not a big deal in the scheme of things, but I just wouldn't talk about Alex in any detail unless I asked him first. Every time. And allowed him to veto things.

    It's what I would want from him. So shouldn't he get the same consideration? But no, she not only cracked on mommybloggers, but she then went and photoshopped the pictures they put up. Was that rude? Sure. Was there an easy way to prevent it? Not once the pics were out on the intarweb. Again, if you want privacy, don't detail your life on a 40-foot billboard. If you do, then the truth is, someone's gonna paint a mustache on it. Kinda sucks, but the idea that it's surprising? Why?

    Even more hypocritical about the whole mommyblogging thing is the fact that you know they tell their kids "Oh, don't give out personal information on the intarweb". Well that's great advice, assuming your mom hasn't posted your entire life's history in detail from birth on. Kinda late to worry at that point.

    But damn, go and gore the mommyblogging ox, and WOO-HOO! Man, talk about hysteria. Yeesh. We tell our kids to "let it go" when someone says something mean to us, but then are incapable of actually DOING that. Then we wonder why kids think adults are hypocritical. Seems obvious to me.

    V. is, in a real sense, a more acerbic, more private version of me. Although sometimes, I think she's a tad too conservative in her language. But seriously, give me an anonymous acerbic asshole any day of the week over the "blogosphere"'s brand of groupthink. At least she's not saying women are doomed to be helpless in the face of hostility. That is far more offensive than anything she'll ever say.
    Mar. 30
    John,

    I think you misunderstood Erwin. God knows I use profanity but it is not a regular part of my speech. I keep it for special occasions :) Like when someone insults M&Ms ;) When Tim Bray says a technology is f***ing brilliant or when you say it, it is different from someone who doesn't have any other words in their vocabulary and their sole contribution to the conversation is profanity. Using profanity for profanity's sake is well not my cup of tea and I don't believe it adds any value to my life or anyone else's for that matter.
    And for the record, I hadn't heard of VA before you mentioned the site and I think it is pure garbage. I don't take lessons in bravery from anonymous cowards. And someone who thinks it is fair game to make fun of someone's child, because they are famous is worthless. I don't care if her Mom was an alcoholic and her Dad beat her. Doesn't give the excuse to spread hatred in the world. She is not bringing any light to this world. You, on the other hand, add lot of value to my blog life :)
    Mar. 30
    Erwin Blonkwrote:

    If anything, a deficiency of mine is using lenghty paragraphs to explain something, fearing I might be misunderstood and ending up making it such a tangled mess that I am unclear just the same.

    First off, profanity does not bother me as such. If I did, many a book or DVD I have would have to hit the garbage can. Profanity can also be pretty hilarious. And as for being sensitive. while Andrew Dice Clay when I saw a show of him on TV over ten years ago, was simply not funny to me, I don´t see why he would be banned anywhere or have to be put on an ´kids safe´time slot. A 5pm showing is fine with me. The Mondays podcast is extremely funny, partly because they don´t hold back on profanity (you should hear the last show where Mark Miller in Dumbah Than Me tells the apparently true story of mr. Treehumper).

    Yet, when I try to explain something and the response is ´you are a <bodypart>, you <some mentall illness>´, the other person can´t expect me to take it seriously. But maybe we aren´t talking about the same kind of reactions. Have you ever been on the now disfunct Yahoo! news discussion message board? That is what I´m talking about, those kind of comments you find there, those I have a hard time taking serious. Strong opinions, that´s great, screaming and shouting ´you are a moron, take your head out of your <body part located in the pelvic region>´, I just can´t take that seriously. I can´t get myself to think that that person really thought about what he said. I´m not better than that person, but don´t expect me to spend any thought on a response to that. Sometimes I just say ´you´re right´, and leave it at that.

    In practice, when I respond to someone that uses strong language as opposed to just cursing and yelling (or even threaths), I find it defuses any escalation by staying calm (and not elitist and snotty - which I know I can be, imperfection is my middle name). It sometimes even works with outright trolls, maybe because, in the end, most people have an opinion and want to be listened to. And I really, really want to take everyone serious. But sometimes it is so hard, so frustrating to get to that.

    Mar. 30
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    John C. Welch wrote:

    My main question to those that use and condone strong language is why?

    Because some of us have strong opinions and choose our words with just as much care as those who care less about point than making sure they couldn't possibly offend. Because we realize that the idea that you can somehow simultaneously express an opinion, and yet offend no one is a zero-sum game. The fact that you even have an opinion is going to be offensive to someone. So, instead of worrying that our language is appropriate for emotionally delicate three-year-olds, we accept that not everyone will like our opinion, or how we choose to state it. We then choose our words with great care, and make sure that they say precisely what we wish them to, precisely how we wish them to, and that our "voice" is expressed correctly. If the only permissible language in the brave new world of bloggery is that which wouldn't offend Elmo, I predict a quick death of anything worth reading.

    What drives you to cloud whatever you want to express by the noise that is namecalling and swearing? You don´t think it strenghtens your opinion, do you?

    It depends. Is my opinion that someone is an acephalic moron? If so, then those are the words I shall use. If my opinion is that an idea put forth is so badly thought out that its mere existence is making everyone who reads it stupider, then that is the way I shall frame my thoughts on it. If I think something is just fucking brilliant, then I shall say it is fucking brilliant.

    See, like most of the "OMGPROFANITY" crowd, you assume that the only time it is used is in the negative. While that is indeed the major case, it is not the sole case. I also find the elitist attitude towards users of profanity condescending and offensive in the extreme, because it's simply wrong. I can cuss like a fucking sailor with an infected dick. But it is by no means the only vocabulary I have available. It just means I like it. It's to the point, and doesn't dance around said point. It's...efficient. I value efficiency in all things.

    If anything it makes it less relevant. Often, when I point this out to a fellow commentor, the response is ´I don´t f…ing care, go f… yourself´ or something along those lines. If that particular person does not seem to care, why bother voicing an opinion at all?

    Well, let's see. You call someone an illiterate boob, and they react badly. Yet, you seem surprised by this. I'm not sure which is more amusing; your assumptions, or the fact that you're surprised that those assumptions aren't taken well. Maybe if you didn't make those particular assumptions, you'd get a better reaction to your other assumptions. Elitism is rarely taken well.

    If I would express my views and counter disagreement at any point with aggressive speech or writing, it is clear I do not so much express my opinion but force my view on others (notwithstanding the option of it simply being ignored).

    Nonsense. Actually, no, "nonsense" isn't the word. Bullshit. That is the correct word. Bullshit. This idea that all writing must be completely without anything that even sniffs of strength or aggression, or more correctly passion is bullshit, pure and simple. It is a demand that the rest of the world make sure your self-image is never challenged, or even allowed to stumble. There is a reason it's called self-esteem.

    One of the surest ways to be confronted with namecalling, swearing and (thinly veiled) threats is to point out the pointlessness and counterproductiveness of just that. In the best case, you will be asked what made you the king of the moral high ground, the worst case I leave to the imagination. Replying to that without such language agitates the counterpart even more.

    Perhaps it's the reaction of most people when someone reeking of ill-deserved language snobbery talks down to them in a patronizing, condescending manner? What, they're supposed to thank you for rudely calling them stupid, ignorant, and basically illiterate? If that's the reaction you expect, I think you need to reassess your worldview.

    The question remains: why?
    I think it is the feeling of being in power. It is feels powerful to swear. It feels even more powerful to disrupt other peoples live. It´s like vandalism, arson, bullying: it feels so good to influence anything. It shows you have the balls to do it, it shows you are not afraid. Actually it shows nothing but weakness, yet it does not feel like that.

    If mere profanity truly upsets your life, then your emotional status is so fragile that I would seriously recommend you sever all ties with anyone not a pre-school teacher. They may be the only ones capable of speaking to you in a way you can handle, if the mere use of profanity "upsets your life". The comparison of profanity to vandalism and arson is ridiculous. But I would suggest that this thought process, (and anyone who would follow it to the letter) is guilty of precisely the same thing it accuses the users of profanity of. It feels good to look down your nose because they called you a "motherfucker" instead of a "not-nice person". It is convenient to use the excuse of profanity to dismiss opinions you dislike or disagree with. It satisfies the ego to say "They can't be correct, they used profanity. Therefore, they are automatically wrong, and I, obviously a better person since I don't use such language, am always right in comparison".

    It's elitist crapola, and a poor attempt to place oneself above others, but it is satisfying to do so. Nothing makes your day than being able to place yourself above someone else.

    So all you swearers and namecallers: more power to you, you are doing great, you are better than I. No guts, no glory. And remember: the feeling is shortlived, you have to do it over and over again.

    Much like the feeling you get when you look down your nose at those who cuss. And like them, you have to remind them, and yourselves of it over and over again.

    If you don't want to use profanity, great, bully for you. But the idea that somehow using profanity makes you a lesser person than someone who doesn't? That's bullshit writ large. It is elitist, condescending, patronizing, and those who use that argument rarely have anything to feel superior about. While I normally ignore spelling errors because no one's perfect, I find it amusing that while you are going on about the inherent inferiority and "lesser" state of those who would use profanity, your post was rife with spelling and grammar errors.

    I guess not even those who are far too superior to use profanity are truly perfect.
    Mar. 29
    Erwin,

    Thank you for the perspective and I fully agree with you.
    Mar. 29
    Erwin Blonkwrote:

    [I also posted this on Kathy´s blog]

    My main question to those that use and condone strong language is why?

    What drives you to cloud whatever you want to express by the noise that is namecalling and swearing? You don´t think it strenghtens your opinion, do you?
    If anything it makes it less relevant. Often, when I point this out to a fellow commentor, the response is ´I don´t f…ing care, go f… yourself´ or something along those lines. If that particular person does not seem to care, why bother voicing an opinion at all?

    If I would express my views and counter disagreement at any point with aggressive speech or writing, it is clear I do not so much express my opinion but force my view on others (notwithstanding the option of it simply being ignored).

    One of the surest ways to be confronted with namecalling, swearing and (thinly veiled) threats is to point out the pointlessness and counterproductiveness of just that. In the best case, you will be asked what made you the king of the moral high ground, the worst case I leave to the imagination. Replying to that without such language agitates the counterpart even more.

    The question remains: why?
    I think it is the feeling of being in power. It is feels powerful to swear. It feels even more powerful to disrupt other peoples live. It´s like vandalism, arson, bullying: it feels so good to influence anything. It shows you have the balls to do it, it shows you are not afraid. Actually it shows nothing but weakness, yet it does not feel like that.

    So all you swearers and namecallers: more power to you, you are doing great, you are better than I. No guts, no glory. And remember: the feeling is shortlived, you have to do it over and over again.

    Mar. 29
    Thank you so much for reaching out to me Liz. It's been a dark couple of days and friends' kind words always shine through these times like rays of sunshine. I'd love to join the club once the little troublemaker arrives :)
    Mar. 28
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    Liz Henry wrote:
    Hey Maryam, I just wanted to offer my support as well. You're such a nice person, warm, smart, witty, gorgeous, and a good writer. Don't let the bastards get you down.  Their racist, misogynist garbage will come home to them and they'll be held accountable for it.

    Also, congrats on your pregnancy!! I can't believe my son is already seven, it seems like just yesterday that he was a tiny baby!  Call/IM me if you need anything... though I just gave my baby stuff to my sister. Also you should hook up with our local moms' club, it's over the hill from HMB, but it's a really good place for support and has a good email list.
    Mar. 27
    John,

    Thanks for suffering the comment system to rise in my support. Always appreciate your wise advice. I am sick to my stomach about the stuff I read about kathy, myself and others and way too emotional right now to blog. In the past, in a couple of occasions that I have blogged while under the influence of emotions I have realized with the power of hindsight that perhaps I was not showing my best articulate self. I'll come back soon, I promise.
    And I may take you on your offer to get some helpful tips on how to protect myself.
    Alfred,

    I totally agree and do not understand the basis for such hateful language and behavior.

    Francine,

    I would love to see you! Thanks for your words of support.

    Rebecca,

    Thank you for your words of support. We'll wait and see how the police investigation develops. If they continue to harass us, we'll definitely seek means to protect ourselves.

    no name,

    Thanks for your kind words and a break sounds like a great idea right now :)

    Betsy,

    Thanks for your words of encouragement. It means a lot to me that my friends are reaching out to me.

    Hasan,

    I agree with John. You did the right thing. Your ex lost a great and brave man. Her loss.
    Mar. 27
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    John C. Welch wrote:
    "Unfortunately, my (then) girlfriend broke up with me as a result of my "not being a man"." That is more of a problem than people seem to think.
    Mar. 27
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    Hasan Diwan wrote:
    There was a similar knobhead who told me to leave my (now) ex-girlfriend alone, else he would fsck me up. I asked him to repeat his threat, recorded it and played it for the local police in Daly City, California. Next thing I know, I got a call from the gentleman saying he'd definitely carry out his threat now that I told the police. After he did this, I rang the police again, gave them the relevant information and the gentleman evidently got himself arrested. When this story was made known at his workplace, I got several emails saying he'd done this before and how grateful they were that I'd done this. Unfortunately, my (then) girlfriend broke up with me as a result of my "not being a man". Oh well, small loss.
    Mar. 27

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